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Old 06-29-2006, 07:43 AM
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Default Field of 128? Coaches want NCAA tourney expanded

INDIANAPOLIS -- In a perfect world, college basketball coaches would nearly double the size of the 65-team NCAA men's tournament field. Realistically, they'd accept a smaller victory.

Motivated in part by George Mason's remarkable Final Four run last season, coaches will urge the NCAA to expand its most lucrative championship event during the men's and women's basketball committee meetings in Orlando, Fla., this week.

"They'd love to see the tournament double to 128," said Jim Haney, executive director of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. "It's based on several things. First, there are a lot of good teams worthy of making the NCAA field, and second, the size of 64 or 65 has been in place for a number of years."

Potential models range from minor adjustments to major changes.

When Haney met with NCAA officials last month, he proposed the 128-team field in part because postseason bids may help coaches keep their jobs.

At this year's Final Four, though, Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim said he supported expansion on a smaller scale. Boeheim and others suggested adding three to seven teams, a move they claimed would allow as many as four opening-round games to be played in Dayton, Ohio, instead of the one now played between the two lowest-seeded teams in the field.

Some believe such a schedule would create a more realistic tournament environment since first-round sites also play four games on the first day.

But changes don't appear imminent.

In March, NCAA president Myles Brand said he didn't see much support to expand the field and vice president for men's basketball Greg Shaheen reiterated that point Friday.

"Many, many people believe the size of the championship is just right," Shaheen said. "A lot of people think there's enough recognition of teams that did well and there's a logical and timely conclusion to the season."

Shaheen said this week's discussions, which end Thursday, will mark the first time expansion has been on the agenda in several years. The reason?

After a four-year legal battle with the National Invitation Tournament, the NCAA agreed to buy the tournament for $56.5 million last August.

Expansion also faces additional hurdles.

If the NCAA opted for a 128-team field, the number of first-round sites would double and an extra week of play would likely be added. Plus, Shaheen said the NCAA would have to debate how best to provide maximum television coverage.

Shaheen said changes would also have to be made in conjunction with the women's tournament.

"There is no one model that is obvious here, and that's something we need to contemplate," he said. "The other issue is how the women's tournament would be similarly impacted here and they need to coincide."

The coaches, however, contend there are many reasons to expand. Among their arguments:

• The number of Division I teams has increased significantly since the last major expansion more than two decades ago. The field went from 48 to 64 teams in 1985, then added a 65th team to the field in 2001 when the number of automatic bids went from 30 to 31.

• George Mason, which was one of the last at-large teams to make the field this year, proved parity in college basketball is real. The combination of prominent programs losing underclassmen at faster rates and scholarship reductions have helped mid-major schools become more competitive. The coaches believe they deserved to be rewarded accordingly.

• Now that the NCAA controls both postseason tournaments, coaches think it's time to include some of the bubble teams that annually complain when they are left out.

Could it happen?

"I don't think the idea of doubling the field is going to happen right now because there are too many complications to do that," Haney said. "But I think the committee will seriously consider what the number will be. ... I think if it happens, it will have to happen soon because of the logistical issues."
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Old 06-29-2006, 09:20 AM
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Exclamation Something needs to change!

I have been hollering about this for some time now. I think 128 is too big, as way too many crap teams would be in, but somewhere in the middle is needed badly. There are always good teams that are left off EVERY year.

Example: For Tourny Year 2006

This year George Mason made a fantastic run, but here are some stats to consider:
George Mason had a final USA Today Rank of 38 with a schedule toughness of 122 and made it in.

Air Force was a USA Today rank of 42 with a schedule strength of 161 and made it in.

Oral Robets was a 120 USA Today rank with a 228 schedule and made it.

Murry State was a 93 USA Today rank with a 256 schedule and made it.

Davidson was a 125 USA Today rank with a 201 schedule and made it.

UAB was a 54 USA Today rank with a 158 schedule strength and made it.

and the list goes on....
BUT

Missouri State with a 24 USA Today rank and schedule of 41 didn't.

Florida State with a 25 USA Today rank and schedule of 77 didn't.

Cincinnati with a 26 USA Today rank and a schedule of 5th strongest in the nation and didn't get to dance!

Shall I continue? This is obscene and needs to be changed. This is unacceptable to allow a championship tourny to not inclue the very best teams!

Anyone else see anything wrong with this? Or is it just me?
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Old 06-29-2006, 09:17 PM
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Default Field of 128

Slinger you are right in what you say. I belive this, and support by a thread I was reading the other day. Coaches want to go to 128 teams. The Tournment wants to expand but not that much. So middle way between 64-128 is what is going to happen in IMP. Besides more teams more money, and also more teams-less griping because some of the teams that should make it don't.
Aslo makes it a lot more fair for the litttle guys that I always root for.

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Old 07-03-2006, 08:09 AM
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Well, this was denied. The mens and womens will stay the same. No more teams added, not even 1. These guys are idiots IMO. Booooooooooooooooooo!
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