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Old 08-24-2006, 04:43 AM
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I have wondered this for quite a few many months now and I decided I would just go ahead and ask.

All of you who are tired of the bologna that ASM has been feeding everyone, why don't you all just go to Alexa ratings and write an honest review? You could tell all of you friends to do the same and then you might see some changes.

I find it strange that there have not been more people to do so. Sure there have been a few, but not near enough to equal all of the negative posts that I have seen on the various forums. I mean what good does it do to complian on here really?

Any thoughts?
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Old 08-24-2006, 05:20 AM
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All of the people that go make "Honest Reviews" get magically deleted. I don't know what kind of deal Chris has with Alexa, but he somehow get's them all outta there.

Don't ask me how, I have no idea. But I don't want Chris to then close my account or something of the like.

I still have a total deposit of:
Cumulative Deposits: $23,530.00
-
Cumulative Withdrawals: ($7,685.00)
=
My personal money still in ASM: $15,845.00

So I am not yet willing to part ways with my 15k. Hope that makes sense.

Here are my account stats at the moment:
Cash Balance: $1,433.06
Buying Power: $882.56
Shorting Power: $882.56
Long Stock Value: $40,371.85
Short Stock Liability: -$0.00
Margin Received: $0.00
Account Value: $41,804.91


I just need to sell some more and make some more WDs. Only a matter of time.
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:38 AM
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All of the people that go make "Honest Reviews" get magically deleted. I don't know what kind of deal Chris has with Alexa, but he somehow get's them all outta there.

Don't ask me how, I have no idea. But I don't want Chris to then close my account or something of the like.

I still have a total deposit of:
Cumulative Deposits: $23,530.00
-
Cumulative Withdrawals: ($7,685.00)
=
My personal money still in ASM: $15,845.00

So I am not yet willing to part ways with my 15k. Hope that makes sense.

Here are my account stats at the moment:
Cash Balance: $1,433.06
Buying Power: $882.56
Shorting Power: $882.56
Long Stock Value: $40,371.85
Short Stock Liability: -$0.00
Margin Received: $0.00
Account Value: $41,804.91


I just need to sell some more and make some more WDs. Only a matter of time.

Well that certainly makes sense for you Slinger. but certainly most people did not go "big" as you.

In saying this I do not mean to offend of course I really admire you for taking that big a bite. The ASM concept is nothing short of brilliant, I have said it time and time again. I just hate to see people treated so poorly there.

I mean, I don't even bye the fact that ASM is a scam as some believe but I continue to have less and less confidence in the people running it. I am almost certain that the way my luck runs I will regret my lack of confidence but I have rarely seen a business run so poorly and prosper. (Maybe I am spoiled?)

Cheers...
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:18 AM
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Some might not be able to write a review also.
I get the error message that I haven't ordered from Amazon.com yet and thus I'm not allowed to publish a review. I do have ordered from Amazon.de but that apparently doesn't count. :-(

Also, you can get a review deleted if you just click the "Report review" button often enough.. apparently, THAT is what keeps Chris busy 40/hrs a week..
(but you can also re-publish your review if it's gone)

On a side note, before ASM, I had never even heard of Alexa.. that might yet be another reason why you don't see many people there...
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:45 AM
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I mean, I don't even bye the fact that ASM is a scam as some believe but I continue to have less and less confidence in the people running it.
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How much more proof do you need?
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We will open a contest for everyone right here (no joke):

Make your guesses on the following questions:

1) When do you all think that my friend will get access to her account again?
2) When will my own check arrive (or any of the checks that they claim have been sent out to us already)?


(Please, include the year in the dates you provide )


Here's the background info again:

My latest check request was from late July / early August.
My friend's check was requested (and supposedly sent out) in late May.
My friend's been locked out since the first week of July without any reason given as to why (and we're affiliates, so if they would have any suspicion of collusion or the like, I should be locked out, too) and there's zero communication from ASM.

And here's the grand prize:

In case that the locked account will ever be accessible and usable again, the one who is closest to the correct date will get exactly 7.77% from the cash balance in that account. Before it got locked, the balance was somewhere around $2K with some upcoming nice dividend payments.
We're not sure if money transfers are still allowed at ASM (probably not.. why would anything useful be allowed?) but in case not, we'll withdraw the funds to Neteller and then do a peer-to-peer transfer or something. Of course this means that the account should not only be accessible again but withdrawals would also have to be processed..
You may use the money as you please or donate it to some charitable cause (other than your own ), since some more of the cash balance will be donated, too. Your choice.

And why all this?
We all know how easily Chris can distract traders from all the problems by starting a nice but useless contest. So, instead of having to wait and wait and wait, we'll make it a little more exciting. Aren't we great?!
(Plus, we're some of those that are convinced that ASM is a scam and maybe the promise of giving away some of our money will improve our Kharma and ASM will turn out to be a legit business, hehe)


So, make your guesses! It's no joke!

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Old 08-24-2006, 01:00 PM
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Reduen: Good question. I'd think we should see some more reviews up on there too. I have not written one yet. When I do, Chris will wish Alexa had never existed. If he deletes, I'll post again. It will entirely stick to facts. The time is getting very short.

I agree with you Reduen. My belief is that the whole thing is a scam. It may not have been at first but I think it's turned into one once the bulk of the money had been made (logaperc admitted that himself) the hard work came and things didn't start looking good any more. I also believe that if it wasn't, that it's managed so poorly, it wouldn't succeed anyway. You only believe the latter. You fall into that category of trader. In mine, I believe both.

Reduen, I'm not that rare. I was really happy when I started there. I was open minded and ready to be swayed either way depending on my experience. They couldn't even run a good scam! After watching and finding all this stuff out and being treated the way I have when unhappy, you see which way it went for me. The only reason there aren't loads of people speaking up and agreeing with me is that most people that think like me wouldn't have joined in the first place or they would have given up on ASM looooong ago.
There is no valuable exchange of information or anything negative uncovered when the majority are cheerleaders. It isn't allowed anyway! It's a one party system ruled by greed. The ringleader just wants to be a self proclaimed, white collared business man that wants to make a fortune without having to work. Lets face it, at this stage of the game with so limited of contacts, relying on the trader base to do your marketing and other miscellaneous work and missing every deadline, Canadian radio interview every few months, I can't imagine what his schedule could be, if there is one. He's living the good life. Exactly what he wanted. Congrats Chris.

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