TickerTime
Sophomore
70 posts
Joined: 5/31/06

Posted: 10/20/06 6:53 pm

Since I refuse to divulge my personal information, I guess I've lost everything. Does that count?
Uconnodu
Junior
91 posts
Joined: 1/5/06

Posted: 10/20/06 7:49 pm

Sounds like a loss to me!
Chris
Architect
4805 posts
Joined: 8/9/02

Posted: 10/20/06 7:54 pm



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On 10/20/06 TickerTime wrote:
Since I refuse to divulge my personal information, I guess I've lost everything. Does that count?
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If you would like to make wide public statements
about why you shouldn't submit identity and tax
information on your account, feel free to submit
a support ticket.

I will see that your interview is considered.

Chris
TickerTime
Sophomore
70 posts
Joined: 5/31/06

Posted: 10/20/06 9:27 pm



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On 10/20/06 Chris wrote:


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On 10/20/06 TickerTime wrote:
Since I refuse to divulge my personal information, I guess I've lost everything. Does that count?
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If you would like to make wide public statements
about why you shouldn't submit identity and tax
information on your account, feel free to submit
a support ticket.

I will see that your interview is considered.

Chris
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Well, how about for starters, I don't particularly feel like giving my vital identity information to a company run by a man who makes sarcastic, threatening remarks to his customers.

But here's the real reason: When I signed up for ASM I was not asked for this information, and I was not told to expect being asked for it in the future. If I had been told that this would be required information in the future, you wouldn't have my money in the first place. At a minimum, you are morally obligated - if not legally - to allow pre-KYCF customers to discontinue business with ASM if they do not wish to provide this information. I never clicked 'I Agree' to a user contract that included mandatory divulsion of this information, and you therefore do not have the right to require it from me ex post facto.

Now, about your irrelevant and unecessary request for me to give a reason for not wanting to divulge this information : I don't want to give you that information, and frankly, I don't need to have a reason. However, I'll entertain you. By your threatening tone, I assume you mean to indicate that you know that my account is frequently accessed by another user, John Lowenthal. Whoopty doo:

John Lowenthal (VinceYoung) has previously publicly indicated that he manages my account. This is not in violation of any agreement we entered into with ASM. My name is Clayton Matheson, and all information I provided when I established my ASM account (including my credit card number) is my own. The fact that he has logged on and made trades on my behalf is inconsequential. I manage my naive girlfriend's etrade account - they don't seem to care.

And, just so you know, John has been my best friend and off-and-on roommate for a very many years. We frequently access the same computer. If you wish to call either myself or John to confirm this relationship and the validity of our separate identities, I (and John) would be happy to speak to anyone from ASM over the phone.

You have no right to hold our accounts hostage because we refuse to agree to your ex post facto policy changes. My father was a recent victim of identity theft. It is a very real and very painful threat, and I'm certainly not about to give my vitals to an organization with no reputation and no established and documented data security procedures.

That good enough for you?

forcing people to disclose their ss# or not be able to take money out would more then likely be considered extorshion by US laws ... how they plan to get legalized after all this is beyond me

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jross35
Sophomore
41 posts
Joined: 4/6/06

Posted: 10/26/06 9:43 pm

I don't see this site taking off until they find a way to increase the dividend reserves. It's pathetic the World Series pays out a penny a share. No big time investors are going to get in for them prices.

...and guess how comes to fluff it up...

http://www.allsportsmarket.com/forum...asp?MID=106229

http://www.allsportsmarket.com/forum... t+Discussions

good job tripple calling them out on their lies and deciet (sp?)

***someone needs to get sandyshores in here... he will be another ally in the battle against the Grand Pubah....

I really wish i woulda put a watermark on my license when i sent it in. But it didnt have my SSN on it anyway. I doubt anyone wants the black and white version i sent them...u cant even buy alcohol with it.

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ASM really knows how to treat new traders. This trader named iwutitan replied to my post asking ASM why he didn't know he had to fill out the form (he joined 29-09). But he asked a couple of times and was a little to persistant. So now all the posts are deleted and our friend iwutitan has a trial account.

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I could not resist posting this thread.. Pay close attention to Stephanies remarks. What a professional company they are.

P.S.

Had to shorten it a little in order to post it here.



Posted: 10/26/06 6:52 pm

Well, whoever is doing this obviously don't read the forums....lol.


Mud

Globalprofits
Sophomore
41 posts
Joined: 9/5/06

Posted: 10/27/06 6:38 am

At least i know i'm not the only one that doesn't like it, i notice it a lot because i'm off work and am spending 15 hours a day looking at it, and it is not only big orders, i have noticed that one trader often has for example right now they are doing it.
Now it may not be 1 trader but if it isn't it's a funny coincidents that it has been happening every day for the last week.
Right at this moment there is buy orders for ASMA1 that start at .45 and go in .1 increments up to .55 which is 11 buy orders all under the trader Flut, now i know it might be more than 1 person but as i said it has been in that type of pattern for a week.
Oh well, i'm still having fun and i will try to ignore these silly people and just hope that they get put on the side line for a spell and come back more educated.
All the best and Happy Trading.
Globalprofits

kfunk
Senior
331 posts
Joined: 10/9/05

Posted: 10/27/06 10:13 am

Well, if it goes up in .01 increments, is allowed to be the same trader.

Globalprofits
Sophomore
41 posts
Joined: 9/5/06

Posted: 10/27/06 10:19 am



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On 10/27/06 kfunk wrote:
Well, if it goes up in .01 increments, is allowed to be the same trader.
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I was told that there was a maximum of 6 orders for the one type of derivative?

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johnnyq
Trader Guide
2469 posts
Joined: 8/20/04

Posted: 10/27/06 10:22 am

Stay within the rules guys/gals...the reward is MUCH greater!

Globalprofits
Sophomore
41 posts
Joined: 9/5/06

Posted: 10/27/06 10:36 am

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On 10/27/06 kfunk wrote:
Well, if it goes up in .01 increments, is allowed to be the same trader.
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I had asked about this not long ago and here is the thread and the answers.
http://www.allsportsmarket.com/forum...Trad er+Guide
Globalprofits

cream1
Senior
245 posts
Joined: 10/28/04


Globalprofits
Sophomore
41 posts
Joined: 9/5/06

Posted: 10/27/06 11:06 am



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On 10/27/06 cream1 wrote:
I had been puting in about 4 orders .01 each. Chris wrote me and ask for me to stop. HE did say that there was no rule.
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I was locked out for about 3 days and i couldn't find out about the limit and i am still a little bit confused and i wish that there could be a limit, because i don't want to do the wrong thing again and be locked out, i'm having to much fun!
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BrainMuck
Sophomore
21 posts
Joined: 7/19/06

Posted: 10/27/06 11:12 am

If these are rules why are they not implemented in the site, if someone is only allowed to put up an order for 100 shares at a certain price then how it is possible to put up more? Why does the site allow people to break the rules? Doesn't make alot of sense to me.

np ASMA1

cream1
Senior
245 posts
Joined: 10/28/04

Posted: 10/27/06 11:27 am



Modified by cream1 at 10/27/2006 12:20:12 PM

Globalprofits
Sophomore
41 posts
Joined: 9/5/06

Posted: 10/27/06 11:34 am



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On 10/27/06 cream1 wrote:
At one time if I put up more then two orders they were deleted.
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That sux man, since i was told that i could do 6 that is what i have stuck to, so now i don't know what i will do.
Does anyone know who we should go to for a ruling on this?
Globalprofits


Stephanie
Moderator
2496 posts
Joined: 8/9/02

Posted: 10/27/06 11:40 am



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On 10/27/06 Globalprofits wrote:


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On 10/27/06 cream1 wrote:
At one time if I put up more then two orders they were deleted.
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That sux man, since i was told that i could do 6 that is what i have stuck to, so now i don't know what i will do.
Does anyone know who we should go to for a ruling on this?
Globalprofits
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Do as you were indicated when you were emailed, you will not have any problems.

Thanks,
Stephanie

regardless
Professor
920 posts
Joined: 11/15/05

Posted: 10/27/06 11:43 am



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On 10/27/06 Stephanie wrote:


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On 10/27/06 Globalprofits wrote:


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On 10/27/06 cream1 wrote:
At one time if I put up more then two orders they were deleted.
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That sux man, since i was told that i could do 6 that is what i have stuck to, so now i don't know what i will do.
Does anyone know who we should go to for a ruling on this?
Globalprofits
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Do as you were indicated when you were emailed, you will not have any problems.

Thanks,
Stephanie
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could you please post an Official Ruling on this?

it seems as though only some are receiving this email


Globalprofits
Sophomore
41 posts
Joined: 9/5/06

Posted: 10/27/06 11:47 am



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On 10/27/06 Stephanie wrote:


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On 10/27/06 Globalprofits wrote:


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On 10/27/06 cream1 wrote:
At one time if I put up more then two orders they were deleted.
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That sux man, since i was told that i could do 6 that is what i have stuck to, so now i don't know what i will do.
Does anyone know who we should go to for a ruling on this?
Globalprofits
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Do as you were indicated when you were emailed, you will not have any problems.

Thanks,
Stephanie
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That is the problem, i was emailed by Chris stating that i had put to many buy orders for the one derivative but i was not told a specific amount that i could put in and i have been trying to find out ever since and as you can see by this thread every person has a different idea on it.
i think that there should be a specific number and then it would be simple.
Globalprofits

Stephanie
Moderator
2496 posts
Joined: 8/9/02

Posted: 10/27/06 11:59 am

There is not a set number of orders you can or cannot place, the emails sent are case specific and are applicable to those who receive them only and not everyone here. There is no need whatsoever to discuss them amongst yourselves. There's really no need to keep going around with this issue, if you have any further questions please contact live support.

Thanks,
Stephanie

Modified by Stephanie at 10/27/2006 11:59:47 AM


Globalprofits
Sophomore
41 posts
Joined: 9/5/06

Posted: 10/27/06 12:26 pm



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On 10/27/06 Stephanie wrote:
There is not a set number of orders you can or cannot place, the emails sent are case specific and are applicable to those who receive them only and not everyone here. There is no need whatsoever to discuss them amongst yourselves. There's really no need to keep going around with this issue, if you have any further questions please contact live support.

Thanks,
Stephanie

Modified by Stephanie at 10/27/2006 11:59:47 AM
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That's bizzare and i think that i will leave it at that.

Globalprofit

The above post ended with Stephanie's post. Posted: 10/27/06 12:09 pm

Gentlemen, we've gone over this issue many many times. It is not open for discussion or debate. If you have any questions about the form or any other requirement contact live support or feel free to contact our Legal department directly.

Thanks,
Stephanie I replyed to this saying that it would be nice if legal would answer their email. She deleted it intermediately.

round and round the toilet bowl
ASM go all day long
Round and round the toilet bowl
Delete the post, everyones a TROLL!

Not really but thats ASM mindset.

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